Dr. John Lott, President of the Crime Prevention Research Center, is an economist and a world recognized expert on guns and crime. He also was the Chief Economist at the United States Sentencing Commission and is well known for his book “More Guns, Less Crime”.

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Brought to you by Tarrant County Public Health. You know the job was dangerous when you took it for him. I have a question for me. One might even goes so far as it’s mediocre, I guess I should salute you with a worthy adversary and all that. But the truth is, I really did he score podcast. So how important is it to maintain your Second Amendment right of self defense? Well, I would say it’s incredibly important. I would say it’s essential to personal liberty. And there’s a reason why, because it provides a wonderful disincentive not only to those in government, but a disincentive for those outside of the country to test the defenses of our country. So the reason why the Second Amendment is such a, it’s such a problem for leftists is that the Second Amendment allows you to resist them. And that’s precisely why they want to get rid of it. Now, they use all manner of specious arguments to push this, this idea that that the reason why things are going so bad in our lives is because of your rights. No, they’ll say they’ll say it with a straight face, that the reason why crazy people go out there and use firearms illegally. It’s all your fault, because you had to have your rights preserved. And if you just abandon your right of self defense, if you just abandon your right to a firearm, then all the violence would go away, all of the firearm deaths would go away. And that’s just not true. I know it’s been said quite often, and you’ve probably heard it before. But the idea that the gun gets up all by itself and goes and shoot somebody is a fallacy. Somebody’s behind that gun pulling the trigger. Now when somebody like just happened recently in Texas, they had some somebody run down six people at a bus stop with their car. Now, is there talk of getting rid of cars? No, no. And of course, the left wing will say and I’m going to have a debate with myself because the left wing doesn’t debate about this stuff anymore. So the left wing will say, well, there are other uses for a car, there’s only one use for a gun. Why there’s only one use for a gun. Well, I know people who use it to hunt I know people will use it for sport. I know people who use it for self defense. That is to say that when you take a firearm and somebody is threatening you threatening your life, and you use that firearm to put holes on the other person that is using it that does not killing, that is not murder, that is self defense. And you’re allowed to do that. In these United States, you’re allowed to do it as part of the human condition. But the Democrats and the leftists and the socialists, always pushing against human nature, always trying to govern against human nature. And what they’ve done, folks, while they’re simultaneously trying to disarm you, they have made our streets less safe. They have made our country less safe, the wide open borders, allowing Narco terrorists and allowing criminals from all over the globe in the crime in the streets with these woke Soros funded da A’s who are allowing the criminals to get off and not be punished. And then while they’re out in the streets, you know, targeting you and the same Democrats want to make sure that you are lambs to the slaughter, and I just folks, I can’t, I can’t get behind this. Now. I mentioned firearms earlier being a deterrent. to government oppression, whether it be the government outside of the United States or our very own. You guys probably heard the story about Christopher Ray and what he’s done. I talked a lot about this on radio talked a lot about this. Last week on on Newsmax, Christopher rea. Upon hearing that the Republicans in the House wanted to see an unclassified report about Beijing Biden, a whistleblower said this report was an investigation that was done on Beijing Biden, taking bribes. He took criminal bribes to change American policy for foreign cash, millions of dollars, 5 million from what from what the whistleblower said. So as part of their investigation into the Biden administration, the House says, well, we’d like to see that document, Christopher Ray, ignoring the Constitution, ignoring the house’s role of oversight, says no, I’m not gonna give it to you. Now, that very same, Christopher Rea, that very same department of injustice is targeting Catholics is allowing crimes against pro life women’s clinics to go uninvestigated and unpunished. So, folks in Democrats, America, it is essential to protect yourself from the Democrats, criminals, and also from the Democrats in government, the leftist in government. Just consider for a moment what it means to have an FBI director that says, No, I know nobody elected me, but I’m going to tell your elected representatives to screw off. Sorry, not just not going to comply. I am not going to comply with your constitutional oversight today. Frankly, folks, this attack on our firearms is getting tiresome to me. And one guy has put his money where his advocacy for the Second Amendment is, and I will talk to him coming up next on the Salcedo storm podcast. And now a word from our sponsor. Does the state of the economy have your head spinning? Let American medical plans relieve one burden health insurance, American medical plan specializes and under 65 health insurance plans that have zero co pays and no deductibles you choose your doctors you choose your hospitals. These plans have nothing to do with your income and are 30 to 60% less than Obama care if you’re paying too much for your own health insurance call American medical plans you deserve better. They will customize a plan managed and chosen by you not the government a liberty loving American takes on Washington, Hollywood and the whole media establishment is Chris Salcedo join his fight. Tune in to the Chris Saucedo show every weekday afternoon on Newsmax. Do you ever wonder what it would be like to trust that where you get your news is accurate and pro citizen? Well, Texas scorecard has you covered. We give you real news for real Texas. Go to Texas scorecard.com. Today, folks, as you know, I’ve been very critical of the Texas House for abandoning the parents of Texas, they pass these silly and toothless laws. Like for example, we are going to prohibit the teaching of critical race theory in schools. And then all of these left wing legislators, whether it be Republican or Democrat, they just go home. They don’t police it, they know what’s a worthless law. And then at the same time, they work to make sure parents can’t do a damn thing about what government is doing all on its own against the law. They just don’t care. So I’ve been very critical of these Republicans who are acting just like Democrats act with guns, Democrats push policies to encourage crime and to make crime go through the roof and then they want to disarm you. So you can’t defend yourself from their criminals. The Democrats are the party of the criminal by the criminal and for the criminal. And I don’t think that’s wise. I don’t think we should let them steal our rights. How many of you are willing to let Democrats and their Republican enablers steal your rights? The polling says that many of you are starting to buy their gun confiscation rationale. And so let’s talk about this with my guest, Dr. John Lott president of the Crime Prevention Research Center. He’s an economist in a and a world wide recognized Say that three times fast expert on guns and crime. He was also the chief economist at the United States Sentencing Commission, and is well known for his book more guns less crime. Dr. Lott Welcome back. It’s great to talk to you again, Chris. Thanks for having me on. So you decided to put some of these gun grabbers to a test. You decided to make them a bet on what’s going to happen not in America but in Brazil. Give the folks the background and what has transpired here over the last few years in Brazil. Well, Brazil’s had very dramatic changes in its gun control laws over rules over the last five or six years. So, and, you know, haven’t seen anything quite as dramatic here in the United States and many gun control type academics have spoken out and on Brazil over time. So, under the previous president Bolsonaro, they had a 600% increase in the number of people in Brazil that were legally licensed to build going on a dunk. He also made it possible for people to be able to go and carry concealed, new allowed people to increase the number of guns that they own. And across the world, there were gun control academics and the media who were claiming that that was a recipe for disaster, Brazil’s extremely high murder rate they were predicting was going to soar and go up. In fact, the murder rates in Brazil fell by 34%. While balsa narrow was was president, the exact opposite of what everybody was predicted. So fast forward to this year and January 1, a new President was sworn in Lula, a socialist. And his very first executive action was to ban the sale of new guns or any ammunition was to outlaw concealed carry was to reduce the number of guns that people could legally own. And he was promising that over the next year or so he was going to change the rules for people having licensing and take away many people’s licenses to legally own guns to dramatically reduce the number of people who own guns. And so those are very dramatic changes that were occurring. And a number of pro gun control academics in the United States have spoken out saying what a wonderful new policy as one person, Dan Webster, who’s kind of runs the Gun Control Research at the Bloomberg School of Public Health, Johns Hopkins, was out there claiming recently in the Washington Post that each 1% increase in gun ownership in Brazil would result results in a point 6% increase in homicides in Brazil. And so I said, Well, you know, there would have been under Bolsonaro, that would have meant a 360% plus increase in homicides when it fell by 34%, actually. And so, it kind of goaded me into trying to think of some way to kind of make these guys put their money where their mouth is they they have no problem telling the media. You know how important gun control is in terms of reducing homicides and violent crime. They tell state legislatures or Congress the same thing. So I offered them a bet. I said, if if you’re right about these things, you obviously expect the murder and homicide rates in Brazil to plummet over the next couple of years. If, if the murder rate and the homicide rate goes down, I’ll pay you $1,000. If it goes up, you pay me $1,000. Well, wait a minute. So hold on how many of these people that you make the bed with? They offered 1212. Academics about 12. Okay, so let me get this straight. It was one against 12. You said and just so folks understand. You said that as Lula the socialist supported by Joe Biden in the Democrat Party, and frankly, our CIA, the Democrat socialist, if if his gun confiscation and gun restrictions cause crime to go down, you will pay out 12 grand to each one of them. If, if you turn out to be right, each one of them will play a grand to you. So Wow. So they have very little risk compared to the risk you’re taking? Correct? All right. Well, yeah, each one would have paid me $1,000 Or I would have paid each one of them $1,000. So it would have been 12,000. I would have had to hey, if they all took it. Well, hold on. Let me ask. Let me ask you how many of them said I’ll take that bet how many of them put their money where their mouth is? None of them. Now let me Okay, so that leads do they just know how well researched you are? Or do they know that what they’re saying that non-compensation That gun restrictions lead to less crime. They know it’s utter Bs, and that they don’t want to risk $1,000. Which, which one is I can’t get into their minds? Obviously, what was their motivation? Seven of them, despite repeated attempts to reach out to someone even respond, and the five that did respond, you know, they had various things. Basically, you know, few of them basically said the betting was a good idea, but they just weren’t sure it was gonna make a difference. No, that’s what they said. publicly. Hilarious. One guy, John Donahue, from Stanford, kept on arguing that, well, we should bet on what’s happened in the past. In terms of changing crime rates, you wanted to pick Houston versus New York over a certain set of years. And I said, Brian, you know, I don’t know if you have bet before on these things, but usually bets involve things that are going to happen in the future, right? You don’t bet on you don’t bet on unknown stuff. You know what I mean? Now, no, well, hold on. Now. What was his was his analysis at all accurate about Houston in New York? With me, it wasn’t, you know, it wasn’t? I don’t think so. And I And he and I argued back and forth in a series of emails, whether or not he was correctly even interpreting that data. And then he The other thing he brought up, he said, Well, you have to compare, you know how one crime rate is increasing or decreasing relative to another crime rate. So that’s the reason why he wanted to compare Houston and New York City over the particular years that he wanted to pick. And I said, Well, okay, fine. So we’ll go and look at Brazil, murder rate relative to the neighboring countries, next to Brazil. And you wouldn’t do that either. No. Well, look, Dr. Lot. I, as you know, Beijing Biden is out there he is. He is using the bodies of dead children, to blame every law abiding gun owner out there for the tragedy in Uvalde, Texas, when it wasn’t law abiding gun owners fault that this happened. It was government’s failure that this happened and all of these mass shootings, we’re finding that it’s government that is failing, because all of their so called laws that were supposed to protect us, they all promised what would decrease crime? They don’t. They don’t the opposite. It’s quite a bit. And the stats show that so what is your take that Joe Biden appears to be winning this argument, though, with these mass shootings, the polls are showing at least NPR how if you want to put any, any faith in an NPR Marist poll, seems to be showing that Americans are they are tempted to believe that gun control actually reduces crime? Right. What do you do about it? I have a lot of problems with the way the questions are worded for NPR. So for example, their first question that they have is, do you think it’s more important to protect gun rights? Or to, you know, have gun control to reduce gun crime? And, you know, to me, the question isn’t protecting gun rights? The question is both you want to read everybody wants to reduce gun crime? That’s there. The question is, which policies are going to do it do let people defend themselves? Is that going to be able to reduce it? Or do you have stricter rules that take away people’s guns? That’s that’s the question. That’s where I would have phrased the question. You know, it’s kind of like, do you support reducing violent crime? Or do you support just the right people own guns is the way they want to go? And, and and phrase Well, their assumption Dr. Lot, and correct me if I’m wrong, their assumption is, and it was a false choice. They said, Do you want to assign on to gun control to bring down crime? Or do you believe in people’s rights as if rights would also not be equally plausible to bring down crime and a lot of people don’t know the data the way you do? And as it turns out, stats show that the more For people that partake in their rights, that has a negative or a positive impact on the crime rate, meaning we get less crime when people undertake their Second Amendment rights. Is that not true? Statistically, it’s free. So take school shooting attacks. We have over we have 1000s of schools across the United States that have arm teachers 1000s of public schools in Texas. It’s near nearing 40% of the school’s arm teachers. You know, in New York, 20 states that to varying degrees, have armed teachers and staff. And you can look, they’re all since 2000. All the attacks were any base and wounded or killed every single one, as occurred in schools where teachers and staff are not allowed to carry concealed handguns. You know, and anybody who reads the diaries or manifestos for these mass murders, knows that it makes a difference. You take the Nashville covenant school shooter, the Biden administration has been holding on to the manifesto and won’t release it. But the National Police Chief had that and looked at it before it was turned over to the Biden administration. And one of the things that he announced at a press conference was that, in fact, this murderer had another target that they had in mind was their first hurt, they decided not to go with that, because of arm security that was present there. And that is so they decided to go after go after the school. And that’s so important. And again, the biased press largely didn’t report on that. And the Biden administration because it disrupts their narrative. They don’t report the news because it disrupts their narrative, folks, what Dr. Lot was saying is absolutely true. That the the shooter in Nashville that slaughtered six Christians, including three children, that the trans shooter was going to choose another target, but because it had armed security at that target, that then the trans shooter decided no, I’m just gonna go to a place where I know, I can do my the most damage without getting any resistance the way any criminal would. Dr. John Lott is our guest right now, folks, he’s the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center. So I guess the last question I have for you, Dr. Lot, is, with defections from the Republican side who used to be solidly pro constitution. Now many of these Republicans like John Cornyn of Texas, have signed on to the propaganda and giving away our Second Amendment rights on the false promise that that’s going to stop gun violence. How do we how do we turn this around? And and make sure that the American people don’t give up this vital right of self defense? Or I mean, I guess, just learning the types of facts that you and I have been talking about here. I guess it’s not too surprising that some politicians begin to cave over time. The media constantly has a drumbeat there. But I think the media has had a huge impact on the gun control debate. So you know, it’s not just the Nashville school shooting, time after time with buffalo mass murder last year, many others, in their manifestos and diaries explicitly explain why they picked the targets that they did. The number one reason this buffalo mass murderer gave was the same as what the national school shooter did. He wanted to go in to a place where he knew his victims wouldn’t have permanent concealed handguns. These guys want to get media attention, and they know the more people they kill, the more media attention that they’re going to get. And so you know, they’re not stupid. They may be crazy, in some sense. They know if they go to a place where victims are not able to defend themselves, they’re going to be able to go and get more media attention, because they’re going to be able to tell more people. First off, and to your point, you’re right, that there are some leaders who have been around so long, like John Cornyn, they just don’t have the devotion to the Constitution and the devotion to our people to actually have the wherewithal to stay the course number one, but number two, I think I’ve never heard it quite phrase just the way you did. I think that we can safely say that the the folks in the biased press the folks in the media, they are the greatest accomplices to these mass shooters, because they’re the ones who bury all of the all of the the negative facts that would protect Americans in favor of this gun confiscation narrative. So I think it’s fair to say that the mass shooters best friend, is the basket of bias pro Yes, No. Unfortunately, they’ve had a huge impact. I mean, I think the entire debate right now would be very different if, even once in a while and these manifestos and diaries, the media would report that part of those manifestos where they explain why they picked the targets that they do. Because over and over again, they make the same point. But the media is just so incredibly selective on this stuff, but maybe read The Washington Post New York Times over the last year after the buffalo mass murder, for example. And they will keep talking about him as an example of right wing white supremacy, conservative violence out there. No. The Biden administration has pointed out the New York Times has had like eight editorials going into it. The thing is, the guy wasn’t racist. But the media wants to go and claim anybody who’s a racist is automatically a conservative, the guy was an environmentalist. He hated blacks, because he was he thought we had too many people and that blacks were having too many children. He calls himself a socialist, he calls himself an eco terrorist. I don’t know, maybe you have a lot of conservative friends who are upset with people who have kids. Maybe you have a lot of conservative friends who call themselves socialists and eco terrorists. But I don’t I don’t know. I don’t know one. I don’t know one conservative Doctor lot who calls himself or herself a socialist. That is the exclusive purview of the Democrat Party, and those on the Republican side who support the Democrat party like the leadership of the Texas House. Dr. John Lott president of the Crime Prevention Research Center, sir, I always appreciate the visit. Thanks for the time. As always, thank you for being there. And ask him to do it for this edition of The Salcedo storm podcast. Do me a favor friends, visit a couple of websites, Texas scorecard.com, Texas scorecard.com All the enterprising journalism you need if you’re in Texas or beyond, because all the issues are big and impacting all of us. Also go to Chris salcedo.com There you can find all of our social media hookups and ways to reach me on the Chris Salcedo shows on AM 700k SCV the voice of Texas simulcast with TNT Radio dot live also on Newsmax TV every afternoon, four o’clock Eastern until five until we visit again my friends remember this. 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